<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2160623360319672192</id><updated>2012-02-16T01:28:03.462-06:00</updated><category term='akal'/><category term='srs board'/><category term='sikhi'/><category term='health insurance'/><category term='Gurduara'/><category term='palatine'/><category term='Zen'/><category term='world news'/><category term='Dharamsal'/><category term='board'/><category term='Guru Gobind Singh'/><category term='Ritual'/><category term='rehit'/><category term='punjab'/><category term='human rights'/><category term='Gurdwara'/><category term='Change'/><category term='Dasam'/><category term='Uniformity'/><category term='Healthcare'/><category term='1984'/><category term='Wikileaks'/><category term='pogrom'/><category term='Sikh Research Institute'/><category term='killing'/><category term='sikh'/><category term='Real'/><category term='secrecy'/><category term='Khalsa'/><category term='Unity'/><category term='Harinder Singh'/><category term='chicago sikh'/><category term='Religion'/><category term='School'/><category term='constitution'/><category term='government secrecy'/><category term='slate'/><category term='darshan singh'/><category term='SRI'/><category term='Transformation'/><category term='politics'/><category term='Universal Healthcare'/><category term='Sovereignty'/><category term='Akal Takhat'/><category term='india'/><category term='Buddhism'/><category term='Granth'/><category term='Life'/><category term='Learning'/><category term='Sikh Religious Society'/><category term='gujarat'/><category term='Buddha'/><category term='Obamacare'/><category term='SGGS'/><category term='Single payer'/><category term='panthic'/><category term='SRS'/><category term='rehat'/><category term='massacre'/><category term='Assange'/><category term='sangat'/><category term='Guru Nanak'/><category term='Spirituality'/><category term='Guru Granth'/><category term='health'/><category term='free speech'/><category term='journalism'/><title type='text'>vismad</title><subtitle type='html'>VISMAD is a state of utter awe &amp;amp; amazement. Beyond words, Vismad transcends thought; it is openness to the realms of ∞ possibility</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Gaurav Singh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16858016618669788346</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YZPbtMJn1JM/SyO-C7dAVPI/AAAAAAAAB8o/unsF6x0GXyg/s1600-R/Escher_Circle_Limit_III.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>9</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2160623360319672192.post-4084636283843912456</id><published>2012-01-08T20:45:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2012-01-10T21:11:56.473-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SRI'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Harinder Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Uniformity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sikh Research Institute'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gurduara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sikhi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Unity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sikh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Gurdwara'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dharamsal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sovereignty'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Akal Takhat'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Khalsa'/><title type='text'>Unity or Uniformity - What Do We Really Seek?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;This is a video of a wide-ranging, passionate and insightful speech elaborating the concept of &lt;i&gt;Gurduara&lt;/i&gt; (Dharamsal).&amp;nbsp; I highly recommend it. &amp;nbsp;Kindly watch the video prior to reading my comments below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="225" mozallowfullscreen="" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/32447966?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" webkitallowfullscreen="" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/32447966"&gt;Reviving the Gurduara&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/sikhri"&gt;Sikh Research Institute&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;Overall, I find great resonance with these views and have for years advocated for much the same.&amp;nbsp; But it does not serve learning to simply voice agreement.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, I shall share some concerns that arose during this impressive speech by Harinder Singh of Sikh Research Institute. &amp;nbsp;The comments below are not necessarily a criticism of his speech, rather it is a consideration of our propensities vis-a-vis collective action and progress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;First and foremost is the all-too-common problem of imposing &lt;i&gt;uniformity&lt;/i&gt; (Nishan Sahib ~26&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; min. of the video).&amp;nbsp; Harinder Singh asks us if a Nazi supporter would be allowed to speak from a Jewish stage, suggesting that, similarly, no purported defender of the Indian state should be allowed to speak from the stage of any Gurduara. &amp;nbsp;He contends that a Nishan Sahib represents that the institution is run under &lt;i&gt;Guru Nanak’s system&lt;/i&gt; or the &lt;i&gt;Guru’s rule&lt;/i&gt;, and not under the rule of any individual, or family, etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree with Harinder Singh's views on Nishan Sahib but not its implications.&amp;nbsp; In fact, I surmise that his implied selection, actually exclusion, directly contributes to &amp;nbsp;the problem - that our Gurduare are &lt;i&gt;pakke&lt;/i&gt; (strong), while Sikhs are &lt;i&gt;kachche&lt;/i&gt; (weak). &amp;nbsp;It is so with good reason.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No one really claims that Gurduare should be run under a system contrary to Guru Nanak's. &amp;nbsp;The problem is that people have divergent opinions about what Guru’s rule or Guru Nanak’s system implies. &amp;nbsp;But, more importantly, this problem is compounded when one seeks to silence dissenting views and to impose one’s view on others and, failing that, to exclude them for non-compliance.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;For instance, hardly any voices seek to support Nazis or their genocidal policies. &amp;nbsp;But using the labels of "self-hating Jew" or "anti-Israel", etc. blind supporters of Israel (and of Israeli dominance of Palestine, illegal settlements' land-grab, etc.) have assailed and worked to silence dissenting and courageous Jewish voices of &lt;a href="http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Norman Finkelstein&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.democracynow.org/" target="_blank"&gt;Amy Goodman&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.chomsky.info/" target="_blank"&gt;Noam Chomsky&lt;/a&gt;, etc. &amp;nbsp;Finkelstein had exposed the very influential &lt;a href="ttp://www.serendipity.li/zionism/joan_peters.htm" target="_blank"&gt;Joan Peters "From Time Immemorial" as a hoax&lt;/a&gt;, and has since been assailed by the likes of Alan Dershowitz and the ADL for his criticism of Israeli heavy-handedness, up to losing his job and bid for tenure at DePaul University. &amp;nbsp;Both Chomsky and Finkelstein are rarely provided "Jewish" platforms, and for their out-of-the-mainstream views to be heard one has to seek alternative media like &lt;a href="http://www.democracynow.org/" target="_blank"&gt;Democracy Now&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, is the discussion regarding the merits and demerits of Israeli policies towards Palestinians, the security of both Israelis and Palestinians, as well as U.S. foreign policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, better served because these voices are rarely heard from Jewish platforms? &amp;nbsp;I would suggest that since an overwhelming amount of unapologetic American support for Israel, facts notwithstanding, arises from the Jewish-American community (where there is much less diversity of opinion regarding Israel, and dissenting views are tolerated far less than they are in Israel, where there is healthy debate), this debate would be best served if dissenting Jewish voices were able to consistently engage the Jewish-American community, which also happens to otherwise be among the most educated and progressive. &amp;nbsp;Labels are, therefore, reductive and do not inform us in a meaningful way. &amp;nbsp;And barring dissenting views is actually harmful to a robust understanding of issues of global import.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Similarly, pretty much everywhere I look, there is near-unanimous support for Unity along with an attendant demand for Uniformity.&amp;nbsp; How many intelligent people of influence peddle &lt;i&gt;disunity&lt;/i&gt;?&amp;nbsp; Yet, most calls for unity are offered as inflexible positions and with contempt for “compromise” (which is really nothing more than a commitment to find a solution that will allow divergent views to unite, even if neither's preference is fully met).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Uniformity is to demand the same and to be invariable, while Unity is to act in concert, to come together while remaining free.&amp;nbsp; The two are not the same.&amp;nbsp; In fact, uniformity entails a loss of sovereignty.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am sure that most would agree that they are for everyone having the right to express their views and to be free to disagree with each other; and, in a Sikh context, that a Gurduara is a place of learning.&amp;nbsp; Yet, when Harinder Singh emotes and raises his ire at supporters of the Indian government being allowed to speak at a Gurduara is he, albeit unintentionally, infringing upon our collective chance to learn (from a wider discussion) by limiting the scope of discussion to what is "permissible"?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Qualitatively, this approach is hardly distinct from the current Gurduara &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;sevadars&lt;/i&gt; disallowing speech that challenges their positions or beliefs.&amp;nbsp; Although, Harinder Singh finds the behavior of the latter unhelpful in allowing the Gurduara to function as a center of learning, I hope that he isn't advocating for the same by wishing to control who can (or should) speak and what one can (or should) say within this “center of learning”.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The willfully blind ambition of seeking uniformity arises from a faulty assumption that one’s own (or group’s) understanding (read &lt;i&gt;belief&lt;/i&gt;) is the only right one.&amp;nbsp; It is analogous to saying that one’s views are the true interpretation (of the Guru’s teachings, and the Way-To-Be), and that the rest of the so-called Sikhs simply need to come to that realization.&amp;nbsp; According to this view there is no room for dissenting voices.&amp;nbsp; Positions contrary to one’s own are routinely termed &lt;i&gt;dangerous&lt;/i&gt; and an attack on one’s very existence.&amp;nbsp; There is a desire for one’s own interpretation to be &lt;i&gt;hegemonic&lt;/i&gt; (imperial dominance over sub-ordinates).&amp;nbsp; Isn’t that the common theme in so many Gurduare today? &amp;nbsp;So, in fact, this uniformity does not offer a way out.&amp;nbsp; Rather, it just reinforces the status quo.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A way out of the current dilemma is possible by encouraging wide-ranging discussions and debates in every Gurduara.&amp;nbsp; If a Gurduara is to function as a place of learning, and not as a mere center of indoctrination, then diversity of views should be welcomed.&amp;nbsp; And especially those that make us uncomfortable.&amp;nbsp; When we meaningfully consider views that are very different from our own, we increase the likelihood of rising above and operating from a larger, and more inclusive, perspective.&amp;nbsp; This inclusion is essential for Unity.&amp;nbsp; By contrast, exclusion (which appears to be implied by Harinder Singh while discussing Nishan Sahib) leads to disunity.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Exclusions, even though clothed as reasonable propositions are a covert desire for uniformity.&amp;nbsp; Uniformity inspires willful blindness.&amp;nbsp; It leads us to ignore the obvious at our peril.&amp;nbsp; Uniformity infringes upon individual sovereignty (that each individual has value and is free to choose the course of his/her life).&amp;nbsp; Uniformity closes the door and is a product of myopia (lack of discernment or long-range perspective in planning).&amp;nbsp; Uniformity, I submit, is not a value that emerges from Gurmat (the universal principles - Satgur - and the Guru Granth).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unity, on the other hand, is very desirable and achievable by being open to a wide diversity of views, and by allowing ourselves to learn, even though we may be uncomfortable by the dissonance they cause. &amp;nbsp;If we are to err, then it should be towards more openness. &amp;nbsp;If there is something to renounce, then it is surely our propensity to be &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt;. &amp;nbsp;And if we are to stop something, then let us stop giving only part of our attention to views that we reject offhand. &amp;nbsp;Our energy and focus, if it is total and we are present to What Is So (and not our story about what we think it is), then we shall have understood the steps (Paurhi) on Listening (Sunai) and Deriving Value (Manai) in Jap(u) ji. &amp;nbsp;That, to me, is the Way of Nanak.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2160623360319672192-4084636283843912456?l=vismad.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/feeds/4084636283843912456/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2012/01/unity-or-uniformity-what-do-we-really.html#comment-form' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/4084636283843912456'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/4084636283843912456'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2012/01/unity-or-uniformity-what-do-we-really.html' title='Unity or Uniformity - What Do We Really Seek?'/><author><name>Gaurav Singh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16858016618669788346</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YZPbtMJn1JM/SyO-C7dAVPI/AAAAAAAAB8o/unsF6x0GXyg/s1600-R/Escher_Circle_Limit_III.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2160623360319672192.post-5881028287738662833</id><published>2010-12-29T15:40:00.003-06:00</published><updated>2011-01-05T09:59:50.568-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='journalism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='government secrecy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='secrecy'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='constitution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Wikileaks'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='free speech'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Assange'/><title type='text'>The Wikileaks Brouhaha: A Misinformed Debate</title><content type='html'>&lt;style&gt;@font-face {  font-family: "Cambria";}@font-face {  font-family: "Lucida Grande";}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 10pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }a:link, span.MsoHyperlink { color: blue; text-decoration: underline; }a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { color: purple; text-decoration: underline; }p.MsoListParagraph, li.MsoListParagraph, div.MsoListParagraph { margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, li.MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst, div.MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, li.MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle, div.MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }p.MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, li.MsoListParagraphCxSpLast, div.MsoListParagraphCxSpLast { margin: 0in 0in 10pt 0.5in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman"; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }ol { margin-bottom: 0in; }ul { margin-bottom: 0in; }&lt;/style&gt;     &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt;"&gt;by Gaurav Singh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Lately, it seems, there has been a woeful lack of reasoned debate concerning Wikileaks across the American media spectrum.&amp;nbsp; For the most part, Wikileaks and its founder, Julian Assange, have been demonized.&amp;nbsp; This is a very curious and a somewhat puzzling phenomenon, since on key issues concerning this scandal there is and should be broad agreement &lt;i&gt;in defense&lt;/i&gt; of Wikileaks across the American political landscape.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Broadly, the issues being discussed concern Mr. Assange, allegations (as yet unsubstantiated) against his character and motives; the leaks have been termed treason, and espionage has been mentioned; at least one highly visible individual has called for the hanging of Mr. Assange; and, generally, the concern has been over the harm caused by Wikileaks and Mr. Assange by leaking US diplomatic communiqués.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The key points that have been notably absent (and would be present if there were a reasoned debate):&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Free speech and mistrust of government,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Role of media and critical need for free press,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Visa, Mastercard and Paypal’s attack on Americans’ free speech,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;4.&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Misunderstood culpability related to disclosures, and&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;5.&lt;span style="font: 7pt &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Assault on free speech and overuse of governmental secrecy.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;When I mentioned to my friends that I found the reaction and attacks on Wikileaks disturbing, a friend and purported supporter of free speech opined, “By releasing classified information about weaknesses in my country's infrastructure and economy, WeakiLeaks is putting my country at risk. Therefore, my freedom of speech is at risk.”&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Lucida Grande&amp;quot;; font-size: 11pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;This capitulation, and reflexive disavowal of a sacred liberty (freedom of speech) by an otherwise intelligent and reasonable individual compelled me to write.&amp;nbsp; Also, I have distaste for hegemonic narratives and for a tyrannical majority willing to shove their unconsidered views down our collective throats. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, what does it mean to support free speech and to have a healthy mistrust of government?&amp;nbsp; These two are considered sacrosanct American values.&amp;nbsp; Yet, there is clearly a blind spot when it comes to making the connection between these values and the hypocritical stand taken by most vis-à-vis Wikileaks.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Everyone seems to be for free speech, unless it comes to speech they find offensive.&amp;nbsp; But free speech has become a &lt;a href="http://www.npr.org/2010/12/09/131940669/Battle-Over-WikiLeaks-Hits-Turning-Point?ps=cprs"&gt;major challenge&lt;/a&gt; for the U.S., especially since we have bandied about the virtues and necessity of a free internet and free availability of information.&amp;nbsp; The rest of the world is weighing in and calling us on our purported values.&amp;nbsp; Do we stand for our values or are these standards by which we merely seek to judge others?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Then, there is the famous healthy American mistrust of our government.&amp;nbsp; Or so I had heard.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;At a time when confidence in our government is at historic lows and there is widespread disaffection with Congressional dysfunction, people have come together in a hurry to defend government secrecy!&amp;nbsp; Yes, that is right.&amp;nbsp; People have joined the chorus against Wikileaks, in defense of government secrecy and essentially against free speech and free press, the antidotes to governmental abuse.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Let us call a spade a spade – Wikileaks has released the truth.&amp;nbsp; No one, not even our governmental agencies are questioning the authenticity of what has been released by Wikileaks.&amp;nbsp; So, at question is whether people have the right to know the truth. How much should we (the people) be allowed to know!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;It is likely that our focus should be on the extent and appropriateness of governmental secrecy.&amp;nbsp; What should be made “secret”?&amp;nbsp; The erring on the side of caution should always tip the scales towards the freedom of (the public to know) information, so that the American voters can make informed decisions.&amp;nbsp; That is how our republic is meant to function.&amp;nbsp; Uninformed or poorly informed voters do not make good decisions.&amp;nbsp; The erratic voting patterns of late validate my assertion, as do the eight painful years under George W. Bush.&amp;nbsp; I contend that freedom should generally trump secrecy, which purports to ensure security.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The other disturbing development central to this controversy is: Corporations are now dictating what our economic choices can or cannot be (not should or should not be).&amp;nbsp; This infringes upon Americans’ free speech!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Visa, Mastercard and Paypal restricting my choices and yours – they did not seek to inform us of the harm in supporting Wikileaks, rather they simply prevented us from being able to give money to Wikileaks.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, these corporations have dared to regulate our economic choices.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Last time I checked, any of us could still use Visa and Mastercard to give to the Ku Klux Klan and any number of racists, fascist or other hate groups.&amp;nbsp; But Visa and Mastercard deign to prevent our giving to Wikileaks!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Supreme Court has recently allowed corporations to give freely, as citizens, to political candidates and causes in the name of free speech.&amp;nbsp; And the corporations are now preventing the exercise the citizens’ rights of free speech.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;So what about this issue of espionage and treason?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Non-disclosure agreements – the government making a case of harm being done as a result of the leaks is one that pertains to the individual employee specificially, and others who sign non-disclosure agreements and then violate them.&amp;nbsp; This is generally true for governmental and non-governmental organizations, as well as for corporations working for profit motives. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The issue here is of a federal employee, who is accused of violating his oath to secrecy and that is an issue that has to be taken up in a judicial court.&amp;nbsp; There certainly may be a case of a criminal violation here.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;However, it is interesting to consider what type of a violation and oath the individual took.&amp;nbsp; Was his oath to uphold the rules of the military?&amp;nbsp; Or was his oath fundamentally to uphold the sanctity of, and to serve the Constitution of the United States (which, presumably, is what the military and other governmental employees serve)?&amp;nbsp; If so, then the real question is not one of a violation of secrecy, but broadly about one’s accord with the Constitutional duties.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Secondly, Julian Assange is not a U.S. citizen, and does not owe allegiance to the United States.&amp;nbsp; He has not levied war against the U.S. or adhered to its enemies, and so on.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, he is not and cannot be guilty of &lt;a href="http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/18C115.txt"&gt;treason&lt;/a&gt; (18 USC CHAPTER 115).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Whether Julian Assange engaged in &lt;a href="http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/37/793"&gt;espionage&lt;/a&gt; is a question that remains to be answered.&amp;nbsp; However, it would raise a broader question – how does the United States deal with journalists (who are protected under Free Speech) and sensitive information?&amp;nbsp; For instance, Robert Novak outed an undercover CIA operative and he did not have to cool his heels in prison.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The most distasteful part of this and related episodes is that all this is occurring under the Obama administration.&amp;nbsp; The President had committed to having the most transparent government.&amp;nbsp; Here is the exact language of &lt;a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/01/remarks_by_the_president_welcoming_senior_staff_an.php"&gt;President Obama’s pledge&lt;/a&gt;, made the day after he took office:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 14pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: small;"&gt;The directives I am giving my administration today on how to interpret the Freedom of Information Act will do just that. &lt;b&gt;For a long time now, there's been too much secrecy in this city&lt;/b&gt;. The old rules said that if there was a defensible argument for not disclosing something to the American people, then it should not be disclosed. That era is now over. &lt;b&gt;Starting today, every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but those who seek to make it known&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 14pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: small;"&gt;To be sure, issues like personal privacy and national security must be treated with the care they demand. But &lt;b&gt;the mere fact that you have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should always use it&lt;/b&gt;. The Freedom of Information Act is perhaps the most powerful instrument we have for making our government honest and transparent, and of holding it accountable. And &lt;b&gt;I expect members of my administration not simply to live up to the letter but also the spirit of this law&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 14pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;I will also hold myself as President to a new standard of openness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: small;"&gt;Going forward, anytime the American people want to know something that I or a former President wants to withhold, we will have to consult with the Attorney General and the White House Counsel, whose business it is to ensure compliance with the rule of law. Information will not be withheld just because I say so. It will be withheld because a separate authority believes my request is well grounded in the Constitution.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size: small;"&gt;Let me say it as simply as I can: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. (bold and italics added)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;What wonderful words, and a clear promise.&amp;nbsp; The cynic in me told me otherwise even then, but I held out hope for the Obama administration.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The fog has cleared and to those uninfected by the two-party divide it is apparent that the actions of the Obama administration are not consonant with his rhetoric.&amp;nbsp; His administration has continued the trend of labeling whole swaths of documents Secret.&amp;nbsp; They have done so liberally (no pun intended) and in the name of national security.&amp;nbsp; In this, and not merely this alone, the Obama administration has continued the flawed policies of his predecessor, George W. Bush (certainly, no liberal).&amp;nbsp; As happy as I was to hear President Obama's promise, I am equally disappointed to see him abandon it.&amp;nbsp; Especially, since, he had boldly stated that he was not afraid to be &lt;a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/25/obama-two-terms/"&gt;a one-term president&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The Council on Foreign Relations had an interview on &lt;a href="http://www.cfr.org/publication/23696/how_wikileaks_affects_journalism.html?cid=rss-analysisbriefbackgroundersexp-how_wikileaks_affects_journali-122910"&gt;How Wikileaks Affects Journalism&lt;/a&gt;, which is a good read. The value Wikileaks brings to journalism, and how that can serve to inform and aid democracy is not hard to understand.&amp;nbsp; The bigger issues concern the assault on free speech and the continued frivolous use of secrecy by our government.&amp;nbsp; And that is a debate in which we should be engaged.&amp;nbsp; Wikileaks and Julian Assange have transformed from an information dump to a judicious outlet of clearly vetted info, in concert with well-respected newspapers.&amp;nbsp; Wikileaks and Julian Assange are leading a new form of journalism and should be accorded the same protections.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who have read thus far, enjoy this video of Amy Goodman's interview of Daniel Ellsburg (who leaked the Pentagon Papers and helped end the Vietnam War).&amp;nbsp; This is followed by a creative (and funny) look at the recent happenings.&amp;nbsp; The allusion to Gadaffi was in the diplomatic communiques recently leaked by Wikileaks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="390" width="640"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/z1pTl8KdREk&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;hl=fr_FR&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;version=3"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/z1pTl8KdREk&amp;amp;rel=0&amp;amp;hl=fr_FR&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object height="390" width="640"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hl4NlA97GeQ&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;version=3"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hl4NlA97GeQ&amp;amp;hl=en_GB&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt; 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video, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) made a cogent case for, as well as exposed the irrational argument against, spreading the risk (widening the pool) of the insured.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; margin: 0px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;So, is the opposition to universally mandated (affordable) health insurance rational or irrational? &amp;nbsp;Well, it depends on who you are.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="font-family: &amp;quot;Helvetica Neue&amp;quot;,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;There is a dissonance between the value of health insurance for voters and politicians. &amp;nbsp;Furthermore, there is a dissonance within voters, as well as within politicians. &amp;nbsp;Why should that be so when universal health insurance is, as I shall show, a cost effective way of addressing this national crisis?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In short, it depends upon incentives and self-interest and with what and whom these are aligned.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In that regard, opposition to the law recently passed (as well as, the fear of Universal Healthcare) may appear rational for some politicians. &amp;nbsp;It is simply not principled (I explain this below).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Mandated Universal Health Insurance is a mechanism that achieves the goal of minimizing risk by diversifying it across the populace. &amp;nbsp;Investors in the stock market routinely seek to minimize their risk while maximizing the upside, and they do it by diversifying their portfolio. &amp;nbsp;Diversifying a stock portfolio makes sense to most rational people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;While diversifying makes sense to rational investors, when related with the stock market, the same principle seems no longer sensible to many presently opposed to diversifying the pool of those insured for health.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Why such dissonance? &amp;nbsp;Did the math, and statistical probability underlying the risk analyses suddenly become inapplicable? &amp;nbsp;Of course not! &amp;nbsp;However, something did change.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;To simply state that people are not always rational would miss the point. &amp;nbsp;At play here is an economic phenomenon. &amp;nbsp;The gains or benefit from investing in stocks are personal, while gains from healthcare are shared (they are spread over the population). Specifically, those who are a lower risk (healthy, young people) get a lower payoff than those who are a higher risk (generally older and disease-prone people). &amp;nbsp;Therefore, the payoff is higher for being rational in terms of personal investments (stock market). The payoff is not nearly as high for supporting universal healthcare. &amp;nbsp;The younger and healthier one is, the payoff from bearing the cost of health insurance actually decreases - that is, the personal value for health insurance decreases.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;So, does that mean that mandated health insurance is not in our interest? &amp;nbsp;Far from it, the fact is that mandated health insurance is in our public interest, but it may appear that it is not in our own, pure self-interest. &amp;nbsp;More specifically, it is not in the pure self-interest of those individuals who are healthy and young, or wealthy and older. &amp;nbsp;Public interest and pure self-interest are not always the same. &amp;nbsp;However, a strong case can be made that, philosophically, they are intrinsically related and inseparable. &amp;nbsp;It depends upon the idea and magnitude of the self – how large is my idea of my self, but let's save that for another day.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;We routinely restrain pure self-interest in service of the public good. &amp;nbsp;For instance, society has deemed it necessary to mandate minimum liability auto insurance. &amp;nbsp;Why? &amp;nbsp;Because if you feel the need not to have auto insurance and crash into me (or my property), then I should not have to endure a large financial cost because of your irresponsible decision.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Similarly, health outcomes have a cost that is shared by society. Only we do not see it everyday.&amp;nbsp; And it doesn’t hit us with jarring force, like an auto accident.&amp;nbsp; But every time we complain about our taxes, we are in some part complaining for having to pay for folks who go to the emergency room.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Why do they go to the emergency room, rather than to their primary care doctor?&amp;nbsp; They do so because they do not have health insurance!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Going without insurance to the doctor entails a high cost, as does visiting the emergency room at any local hospital.&amp;nbsp; Except, the doctor in private practice can refuse to see you if you are not insured, since they know you will not pay them.&amp;nbsp; But the emergency room cannot turn you away.&amp;nbsp; And guess who pays for it?&amp;nbsp; All of us, the taxpayers, bear that cost.&amp;nbsp; Many individuals and families who are made to bear responsibility for such costs find themselves financially ruined.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Think of how much cheaper it would be to visit the primary care physician for treatment or medical advice.&amp;nbsp; You make a copayment for all preventive care, in addition to your regular insurance payments.&amp;nbsp; Larger treatments may entail a coinsurance.&amp;nbsp; But that cost is considerably less than going to the emergency room for the same treatment.&amp;nbsp; Actually, the difference is in orders of magnitude.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Is it really that hard to understand that the more people there are in a group the overall risk, as well as the per person cost of a program, is reduced? &amp;nbsp;That is the basis upon which insurance operates. &amp;nbsp;Insurance is about managing risk. &amp;nbsp;In short, there is a larger shared benefit when risk is spread amongst a larger group of people. &amp;nbsp;The validity of my case is evident by comparing the cost of any private vs. group insurance.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Then, there is the issue of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.economyprofessor.com/economictheories/adverse-selection.php"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #001be6; text-decoration: none;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;adverse selection&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;. &amp;nbsp;If young, and potentially healthier, people stay out of the pool of the insured&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;because&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;they are healthy, then by default the pool of the insured will include those who are not as healthy, and result in a higher cost for all who are insured.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;In such a marketplace of choice, who will seek insurance? &amp;nbsp;Overwhelmingly, it would be folks who think (or know) that they need to be insured, i.e. those who are likely to be unhealthy!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;This is a simple, yet pertinent, reasoning that is lost on those who rail against the virtues of universal healthcare. &amp;nbsp;By having a choice the healthy stay out of the insurance pool yet, when needed, they go to the emergency care.&amp;nbsp; They do so because the benefits are personal and the costs are shared.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Conversely, by mandating health insurance society ensures that the benefit and cost both are shared.&amp;nbsp; What we need is to be made painfully aware of the actual cost of having a broken healthcare system – what we actually pay (through our taxes) to sustain the system at this time and the actual savings via a mandated health insurance.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;So, why are many politicians forwarding an irrational argument?&amp;nbsp; Simply put, it is a matter of incentives and interest – both public and self.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Actually, one needs to parse the meaning of public interest. Public interest comprises collective good. &amp;nbsp;The collective is made up of individuals, but transcends pure self-interest.&amp;nbsp; When we act in the public interest or for the public good, our choices help more than just ourselves, although we do accrue a smaller benefit.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;It is pure self-interest to which opportunistic politicians speak, when they bring to light that Universal Healthcare is not in people's self-interest. &amp;nbsp;But, they conflate it with the public good which is clearly not the case. &amp;nbsp;These politicians are highlighting selective parts that actually distort the bigger picture.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Now, we generally give up pure self-interest everyday in order to serve the public good. &amp;nbsp;For example, parks and infrastructure such as roads and bridges are public goods and serve the public interest, paid for by all of us. &amp;nbsp;We just do not take money out of our pocket to keep these running.&amp;nbsp; It is included in our taxes. &amp;nbsp;Health insurance is paid weekly or monthly, so it hurts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;But why do politicians make a case to undermine the public interest? &amp;nbsp;The primary functional goal of a politician is to get re-elected.&amp;nbsp; That may sound cynical, but it is true. &amp;nbsp;Assuming all politicians are honest and enter politics to serve the public good, they would need to stay in office for them to continue to serve the public.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, politicians are functionally interested in re-election and after all is said and done they hope to do more good than harm.&amp;nbsp; Again, it sounds like a cynical qualification, but is it?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;All honest politicians want to do what is “good” in their view, the problem is that other politicians disagree, and are committed to their own view of the “good”.&amp;nbsp; And in our system of government bifurcates the power into three branches &amp;nbsp;- legislative (Congress), judicial (Courts) and the executive (President) - and two branches (House and Senate) within the legislative branch – the lawmaking body.&amp;nbsp; It is a painful process to get a bill to become law.&amp;nbsp; I highly encourage all to watch &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; short video below to appreciate that process.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Repealing a law takes a whole new dimension when the law actually serves the public good. &amp;nbsp;It is a problem, in my view, that President Obama did not make the case for Universal Healthcare - a campaign promise, in favor of an easier product - a compromised and flawed bill, which is nevertheless an improvement over the status quo.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;House members have to seek re-election every two years.&amp;nbsp; Therefore, these elected representatives want to fashion legislation to serve the public good, while constantly concerned with raising money for re-election and having to compromise with other politicians serving the interests ("good") of their constituents.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;But who are their constituents?&amp;nbsp; That is more complicated. &amp;nbsp;For politicians, constituents include voters, but also include interest groups that lobby to have their preferences considered.&amp;nbsp; These interest groups include experts who advise (wink, wink!) elected representatives on the merits and demerits of certain provisions of any particular legislation.&amp;nbsp; In fact, these “experts” pretty much write the law that is to essentially govern them.&amp;nbsp; So, politicians are more vested to interest groups that support them, like health insurance companies, than individual voters who may express their preferences thru emails, letters or phone calls. &amp;nbsp;Only coordinated action by a sizable number of voters can sway legislators.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;The above is not to justify in any way the actions of politicians.&amp;nbsp; I do not.&amp;nbsp; It is only to shed light upon the process.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;So, from the politicians’ vantage point they are taking rational positions that support their chances of re-election. &amp;nbsp;The problem is that their interest is not always aligned with the interest of their constituents (I mean you and me).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Citizens, you and me, can have wildly different interests than elected representatives, as should be clear by now.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;To many politicians who oppose universal healthcare, then, it would appear they are acting rationally.&amp;nbsp; That is because they are serving their main objective, which is to stay elected and to do, on average, more good than harm through the complex system of checks and balances of our system of government that constrains their choices.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;However, these politicians are not being honest when they say that they are being principled.&amp;nbsp; They are not.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Since, mandating universal health insurance is a public good, in that it serves the public interest, it would be a principled position for every politician to support this measure.&amp;nbsp; Unless it is their intention to work solely for self-interest. &amp;nbsp;But if they were to make that revelation, then they simply would not be re-elected. &amp;nbsp;So, the real question is whether Health insurance for all Americans is in the public interest, since politicians are universally and rhetorically committed to serving it. I hope the reasoning above makes clear that mandated health insurance for all Americans is obviously and provably in the public interest.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Finally, the reasoning that government cannot manage healthcare and that private sector can do it better is ridiculous. &amp;nbsp;We already know that the private system of health insurance is broken and based upon choice, which clearly does not work. &amp;nbsp;We also know that the government manages Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Defense, Law &amp;amp; Order, Mail, and Education, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Effectively, the healthcare problem could have been addressed by including everyone within Medicare. &amp;nbsp;However, leave it to the Democrats to botch this rational sell to the American people. &amp;nbsp;Just kidding. &amp;nbsp;It is not easy to make the case for mandated health insurance in one line. &amp;nbsp;It is certainly easier to use fear-mongering tactics and confuse the voters.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0px 0px 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;Still, persistent and cogent reasoning can win this debate. &amp;nbsp;And that is a fight President Obama should gear up for.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2160623360319672192-7481793597550128888?l=vismad.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/feeds/7481793597550128888/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2010/12/opposing-healthcare-rational-or.html#comment-form' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/7481793597550128888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/7481793597550128888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' 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term='Change'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Ritual'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Transformation'/><title type='text'>Human Being or Human Doing?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.allmyanmar.com/new%20allmyanmar.com/Teaching%20the%20highly%20moral%20character%20of%20Buddhism%20in%20Myanmar%20Burma.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="143" src="http://www.allmyanmar.com/new%20allmyanmar.com/Teaching%20the%20highly%20moral%20character%20of%20Buddhism%20in%20Myanmar%20Burma.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The bell sounded as always.  It was three in the morning.  There was a great commotion as all the monks hurried to the freezing water that awaited the start of their bathing ritual.  If one may call it bathing.  But today instead of the usual chatter they heard a melodious voice.  It was soothing, unfazed by the chill of the early morning and the bite of the water.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;All eyes turned to the new student.  Enraptured by the melody he created so effortlessly, the monks did not know what to make of this child.  A singing monk, they sneered.  But the singing child was free of all care, seemingly mocking the world which did not appear to touch him.  He sang, as he slowly poured the melted ice over his thin frame, savoring these sensations.&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;Those who flow as life flows know&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;     They need no other force&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;     They feel no wear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;     They feel no tear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;     They need no mending&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;     No repair&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.allmyanmar.com/new%20allmyanmar.com/monk%20meditating%20mandalay%20myanmar%20burma.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="222" src="http://www.allmyanmar.com/new%20allmyanmar.com/monk%20meditating%20mandalay%20myanmar%20burma.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;A few hours they sat in meditation, trying hard to still their mind.  Later, during discussion, the Teacher asked the monks if they had worked hard enough at quieting their mind.  “What”, asked the Teacher, “was uncovered in the infinity of silence?  What saw you in that clearing?  Think clearly and answer.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The blank faces stared at each other.  Some embarrassed, looked intently at the floor, as though they would&amp;nbsp; uncover the answer from within the cracks that lined the floor.  Some giggled, but&amp;nbsp; everyone was too afraid to speak, lest they risk ridicule by their peers.  Unexpectedly, a soft voice arose…&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;The wise man does not strive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;     The ignorant man ties himself up&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: black; text-align: justify;"&gt;Every head turned to witness the sacrificial lamb.  The student had the undivided attention of the gathering, as well as of the Teacher.&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="color: #073763; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;If you work on your mind with your mind&lt;br /&gt;How can you avoid an immense confusion?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The Teacher was not used to hearing wisdom from one so young.  To know required years of toil.  The Teacher smiled.  He would enjoy making an example of this impolite child.  He would bring the boy in line with their monastic ways.  A tradition of a thousand years was testimony to the fact that it required struggle, arduous struggle, for one to clean off all the dirt and grime of this world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;He smiled patiently and baited the young student.&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://killuminati2012.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bodhi-tree-samadi.jpg?w=432" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="171" src="http://killuminati2012.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bodhi-tree-samadi.jpg?w=432" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;The body is the Bodhi Tree&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #990000;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt;  The mind like a bright mirror standing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #990000;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt; Take care to wipe it all the time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #990000;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #990000;"&gt; And allow no dust to cling&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The other monks looked to each other and seemed quite satisfied.  Then glancing over at the new student they whispered silent insults and shook their heads in rejection of his seeming rebellion.&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;There never was a Bodhi Tree&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; Nor bright mirror standing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; Fundamentally, not one thing exists&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; So where is the dust to cling?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The Teacher was speechless.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The student continued, “The whole idea of purifying the mind is irrelevant and confusing because our own nature is fundamentally clean and pure.  Our true mind is not an object to be grasped or controlled.  And to attempt it is to go around a vicious circle.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;“To try to purify the mind is to contaminate it with purity”, said the student with quiet authority.  “It is obvious that a person is not genuinely free, detached or pure when his state is the result of an artificial discipline.  He is just imitating purity, just faking clear awareness.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The Teacher, clearly ruffled by now implored, “To have knowledge one needs to struggle, work extremely hard for years.  Then, can one &lt;i&gt;know &lt;/i&gt;the truth.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The student responded,&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;All knowledge studies others&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; Wisdom is self-known&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The deep silence that followed created a listening for the student to continue.&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;There is no need to run outside&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  For better seeing&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  Nor to peer from a window&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  Rather, abide&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  At the center of your being&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  For the more you leave it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  The less you learn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  Search your heart and see&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  If he is wise who takes each turn&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;  The way to do, is to BE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;All attention was on the student.  Eyes that condemned him mere minutes earlier, now implored.  The Teacher felt a deep silence within his core and waited for the boy to continue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The Teacher also began to recognize that his years of toil were mere practiced actions, ritualized gestures without meaning.  He saw that his religious value was but a cheap imitation of a pioneering feat reached over a millennium ago by an authentic seeker.  He saw now that senses must be sharp and the wit quick enough to pierce the Universe and become insight.  But all his years of training were akin to an invalid being spoon-fed.  It had dulled the experience, as well as the one experiencing.  What wisdom was going to be come upon, when one does not even crave the insightful experience of Truth?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;The student asked everyone “why have you shunned society and isolated yourself?  Has it truly helped you rise above the dirt and the grime of the world?&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;It is not a question of living in the world or above it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; But one must find the way to be in both and love it&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;With great compassion the student added,&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;A sound man’s heart is not shut within itself&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; But is open to other people’s hearts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; And I find good people good&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; And I find bad people good&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; If I am good enough;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; I trust men of their word&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; And I trust liars&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; If I am true enough;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; I feel the heartbeats of others&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; Above my own&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; If I am enough of a father&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="color: #073763;" /&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt; Enough of a son&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color: #073763;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Softly, the student started towards the large wooden gate that shut out the world.  The other students, who once were monks, watched overwhelmed.  Then slowly, one by one, they ventured out of the confines of the monastery.  Outside, an unpredictable world waited.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="color: #660000;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Note:&lt;/b&gt; I shall not claim originality as this was written during moments of inspiration, having read many great works and after significant ontological realizations. This was from around 1997/98.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2160623360319672192-860985347174327832?l=vismad.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/feeds/860985347174327832/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2009/12/human-doing-or-human-being.html#comment-form' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/860985347174327832'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/860985347174327832'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2009/12/human-doing-or-human-being.html' title='Human Being or Human Doing?'/><author><name>Gaurav Singh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16858016618669788346</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YZPbtMJn1JM/SyO-C7dAVPI/AAAAAAAAB8o/unsF6x0GXyg/s1600-R/Escher_Circle_Limit_III.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2160623360319672192.post-4768917095518162180</id><published>2009-12-06T20:01:00.008-06:00</published><updated>2010-12-21T10:44:55.219-06:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='akal'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guru Nanak'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Granth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='darshan singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rehat'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sikhi'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Dasam'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sikh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guru Granth'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='panthic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Guru Gobind Singh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='rehit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SGGS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Khalsa'/><title type='text'>“Dasam” Granth - A Look At The Core Problems</title><content type='html'>By Gaurav Singh&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like so many other issues that contemporary Sikhs choose to deal with, this issue is contrived and, indeed, a red herring (in that, it is meant to divert attention).  I largely agree with &lt;a href="http://www.sikhchic.com/columnists/the_dasam_granth_issue_a_red_herring"&gt;Sardar I. J. Singh’s take on things&lt;/a&gt; and would like to make some further distinctions that may help separate "the wheat from the chaff".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rather than getting into minutiae, historical or otherwise, it is sometimes more helpful to understand the basis, the fundamentals, the core, the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Tat&lt;/span&gt; of the issue under consideration.  In my understanding the fundamentals under concern here are:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Who/what is Guru?&lt;br /&gt;2) Who has the right to decide the status of what is and what is not Guru?&lt;br /&gt;3) In light of the above, what is the status of the so-called Dasam Granth?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sardar I. J. Singh has shed light upon this by exposing, quite simply, the hypocrisy practiced by those who believe in any real relation between Guru Gobind Singh and Hemkunt (as a historical GurAsthan).  Of course, if Sikhs give no credence to the Hindu pilgrimages visited by Lehna ji (later became a Sikh, and then, Guru Angad) and Amar ji (later became a Sikh, and then, Guru Amar Das) in the same life which saw them first become Sikhs and then the Guru, then how can a GurSikh deign to validate an alleged previous life of Guru Gobind Singh?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Gurmat here is that we are engaged with and get our guidance from the Guru, and the actions of Nanak II &amp;amp; III prior to their ascension to the status of the Guru do not have the sanction of (what I term) Guru-authority.  So, any validity to an alleged previous life of Nanak X is beyond baffling and, certainly, not Gurmat.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now back to the core.  Who is the Guru?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Guru existed prior to Guru Nanak and shall always exist, as long as there is existence, since the Guru is Shabad.  This fact is also apparent because of the inclusion (within Guru Granth Sahib) of the Bani of Sheikh Farid and Bhagat Kabir, etc. who preceded Guru Nanak Sahib.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At this time, I should make clear the distinction between Guru and, what I term, Guru-authority.  When Guru Nanak sanctioned Guru Angad as the Guru going forward, he himself lived for some time thereafter.  No sane person would suggest that the Guru within Guru Nanak suddenly left him and went into Bhai Lehna.  When Guru Angad becomes Guru it does not mean that Guru Nanak is not Guru.  Guriai is not a zero-sum game.  Rather, it is akin to a Jot (en)light(en)ing another Jot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Therefore, what Guru Nanak passed onto Bhai Lehna was the Guru-authority. Bhai Lehna was, in fact, indistinguishable from Guru Nanak, hence his Ang(ad).  What they had in common was the enlightenment from Shabad Guru!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, at the same time in 1539 CE existed Guru Angad Sahib (Guru-authority) and Guru Nanak.  In a smaller sense this could be understood through the concept of Presidency in the United States.  Barack Obama is the President, while George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush and Carter are also Presidents.  All but Obama, however, are not charged with the authority to make executive decisions for the 50 states in the union.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The difference here is that the de jure authority for Presidents is conferred by the constitution and, loosely speaking, by the people.  Whereas, the Guru-authority is conferred upon Guru Nanak by the 1 and this authority is further recognized by the people with the ability to make that distinction – the Sikhs (and I would distinguish them from the “Sikhs”, for instance, Sain Mian Mir was a Sikh of the Shabad Guru, yet not a “Sikh”).  The de facto and moral charge of the Guru is given by the people whose commitment is to themselves be transformed by the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Mat&lt;/span&gt; of the Guru.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The transfer of Guru-authority continued 9 more times when it came to Guru Gobind Singh.  It was Guru Gobind Singh’s charge, as it was of every Guru-authority before him, to decide what is and what is not Guru(bani).  With this established, I shall point out a fact:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not every word communicated by the Guru-authority, whether spoken or written, is Gurbani or Guru!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance, if the Guru (Nanak I-X) asked a mundane question – the address to someone’s home – it is not Gurbani.  Only that which the Guru confers with the status of Gurbani is such.  This is obvious, yet clearly not understood by many.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is not a single word of Nanak VI-VIII in what was to become Sri Guru Granth Sahib (SGGS).  Of course, in their lifetime each Guru Sahiban spoke and, no doubt, wrote words.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;But mere words, no matter how powerful, do not Gurbani make!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Word(s) becomes Shabad Guru, only when it is given such status by the Guru-authority.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But more relevant to our issue, Guru Gobind Singh (who completed the authorship of what was to be SGGS) consciously chose to include Guru Tegh Bahadar Sahib’s Bani and also made a conscious decision &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; to include any of his own Bani within SGGS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I ask for your patience in looking at further implications and urge the readers to keep their emotional responses and mental discomfort in check as they read on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whether one word or the entire so-called Dasam Granth is written by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib himself, it is &lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt; Gurbani or Shabad Guru, on its own.  The Guru himself decided that by not including a single word of his own within SGGS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, are the supporters of the “Dasam” Granth then challenging the Guru by conferring the status of Gurbani to parts of the so-called Dasam Granth?  Yes and No!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;Yes:&lt;/span&gt; Because of the pervasive ignorance of the reasoning above, on its face – Yes, these “Sikhs” are in a way challenging the Guru’s decision.  They are doing so under the garb of Sharda (faith), which is in fact Anni Sharda (blind faith).  They claim to do so out of respect for the Guru.  I say claim, because they do not respect the Guru sufficiently enough to accept the Guru’s Hukam. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Before I get to the "No", I want to clarify another matter.  Just as Guru-authority was passed from Nanak I - X, in 1699 CE Guru Gobind Singh (Nanak X) passed Guru-authority to the Guru Khalsa Panth, when after administering the Khande-ki-Pahul to the Panj Piare he asked them to initiate him into the Panth Khalsa.  At that moment, the Guru-authority was passed onto the Guru Khalsa Panth.  Hence, by the reasoning presented above, the supporters of the so-called Dasam Granth may not be directly opposing the Guru.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;No:&lt;/span&gt; Since, in part, the status of Gurbani or Shabad Guru can be conferred only by the Guru-authority, the Guru Khalsa Panth does presumably have the authority to confer the status of Gurbani or Shabad Guru.  This is where some complexity arises.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Guru Khalsa Panth, drafted a widely circulated document, the final draft of which, has henceforth been accepted as the “Sikh Rehit Mariada” and published by several organizations, including the SGPC’s Dharam Parchar Committee.  In it are some Banis which are included in the Nitnem – Jaap, Sawaiye, and a carefully chosen portion of Chaupai.  No other portion of the writings within the so-called Dasam Granth has been included in the Panthic Rehit, with the exception of portions in the beginning of the formal Ardas and the previously mentioned Bani as a part of Amrit Sanskar, or during administration of the Khande-ki-Pahul (initiation into the Khalsa collective).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The folks, whom I shall refer to as the ominous “they” going forward, who are now forwarding the legitimacy of the so-called Dasam Granth and some of whom are displaying it in parallel with SGGS are also generally opposed to the Panthic Rehit Mariada.  They have two problems and neither of these problems is insubstantial.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If they say they call the writings within the so-called Dasam Granth "Gurbani" because they claim it is, in part or wholly, Guru Gobind Singh’s, then they dismiss the Guru’s own decision and Hukam that only that which is within SGGS is sanctioned by the Guru-authority as Shabad Guru or Gurbani.  These people become &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Guru-dokhi&lt;/span&gt; (Detractors of the Guru)!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other issue is that the Guru Khalsa Panth can and has already made decisions as the Guru-authority.  But by disavowing or working actively to undermine the credibility and authority of the Guru Khalsa Panth, they (the blind supporters of the so-called Dasam Granth) become &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Panth-dokhi&lt;/span&gt; (Detractors of the Panth)!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2160623360319672192-4768917095518162180?l=vismad.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/feeds/4768917095518162180/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2009/12/dasam-granth-look-at-core-problems.html#comment-form' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/4768917095518162180'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2160623360319672192/posts/default/4768917095518162180'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/2009/12/dasam-granth-look-at-core-problems.html' title='“Dasam” Granth - A Look At The Core Problems'/><author><name>Gaurav Singh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16858016618669788346</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YZPbtMJn1JM/SyO-C7dAVPI/AAAAAAAAB8o/unsF6x0GXyg/s1600-R/Escher_Circle_Limit_III.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2160623360319672192.post-1939402068791504698</id><published>2009-04-18T11:29:00.010-05:00</published><updated>2009-04-18T16:13:20.835-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='sikh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='chicago sikh'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Sikh Religious Society'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='panthic'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='srs board'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='SRS'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='slate'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='palatine'/><title type='text'>Actions of SRS Board “Anti-Panthic”, Palatine Sangat’s Growing Discontent</title><content type='html'>&lt;meta equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Our focus is upon the Sikh Religious Society (SRS) of Chicago, located in Palatine, which is the largest gathering of Sikhs in the Midwest. According to recent reports from members the SRS Board has acted autocratically, failed to meet the spiritual &amp;amp; social needs of its Sangat, has marginalized the youth and seniors, has created controversy by installing 2 Head Granthis, and they have done so having alienated the Sangat and disallowing transparency in their decision-making process.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;The irony is that the present Board of Trustees, which won the last elections in 2008, did so while (justifiably) accusing the previous board of lacking transparency, of not being in touch with the Sangat and for neglecting the youth. The new Board ran the elections as the self-styled “Panthic Slate”, yet their behavior and actions have been anything but Panthic. Looking at it dispassionately, one may even be forced to conclude that some policies and decisions made (and are in the process of being made) by the new SRS Board may be termed anti-Panthic.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoIntenseEmphasis"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);font-size:130%;" &gt;Anti-Panthic?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;"&gt;No doubt that the label “anti-Panthic” is a very strong one. It inevitably leads to a rise in the blood pressure for many involved in contemporary Sikh politics. But read on to see if this deduction is baseless. Once confronted with the evidence, you too will conclude that calling the new SRS Board’s actions anti-Panthic is fair, and indeed, warranted.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoSubtitle"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoIntenseEmphasis"&gt;*** Please click on the Title above to read the entire post *** &lt;/span&gt;&lt;style&gt; &lt;!--  /* Font Definitions */  @font-face 	{font-family:"Cambria Math"; 	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4; 	mso-font-charset:0; 	mso-generic-font-family:roman; 	mso-font-pitch:variable; 	mso-font-signature:-1610611985 1107304683 0 0 159 0;} @font-face 	{font-family:Calibri; 	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4; 	mso-font-charset:0; 	mso-generic-font-family:swiss; 	mso-font-pitch:variable; 	mso-font-signature:-1610611985 1073750139 0 0 159 0;}  /* Style Definitions */  p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal 	{mso-style-unhide:no; 	mso-style-qformat:yes; 	mso-style-parent:""; 	margin-top:0in; 	margin-right:0in; 	margin-bottom:10.0pt; 	margin-left:0in; 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type='html'>&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;ੲੈਸ.ਆਰ.ੲੈਸ. ਪੈਲਟਾਈਨ ਬੋਰਡ ਦੀ ਕਾਰਗੁਜ਼ਾਰੀ “ਪੰਥ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ”,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;ਪੈਲਟਾਈਨ ਸੰਗ&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);"&gt;ਤ ਦੀ ਵਧਦੀ ਹੋਈ ਨਰਾਜ਼ਗੀ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);font-size:130%;" &gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ਮਿਡ-ਵੈਸਟ ਨਿਵਾਸੀ ਸਿਖ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੇ ਦਰਪੇਸ਼ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਗੰਭੀਰ ਸਮਸਿਆਵਾਂ ਦਾ ਸੰਕਟ ਖੜਾ ਹੋ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ, ਪਰ ਸੰਗਤ ਨੇ ਸਮੱਸਿਆਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਸਮਾਧਾਨ ਦਾ ਉਪਰਾਲਾ ਆਰੰਭ ਕਰ ਦਿਤਾ ਹੈ। ਸੰਗਤ ਦਾ ਧਿਆਨ ਮਿਡ-ਵੈਸਟ ਦੇ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਵਡੇ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰੇ ਤੇ ਕੇਂਦਰਤ ਹੈ। ਹਾਲ ਹੀ ਵਾਪਰੀਆਂ ਘਟਨਾਵਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਸਾਬਤ ਹੋ ਚੁਕਿਆ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਸ਼੍ਰਸ਼ ਭੋੳਰਦ ਤਾਨਾਸ਼ਾਹੀ ਤੇ ਉਤਰ ਆਇਆ ਹੈ, ਸੰਗਤ ਦੀਆਂ ਰੂਹਾਨੀ ਅਤੇ ੇਭਾਈਚਾਰਕ ਲੋੜਾਂ ਪੂਰੀਆਂ ਕਰਨ ਦੇ ਅਸਮਰਥ ਹੈ, ਨੌਜੁਆਨਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਬਜ਼ੁਰਗਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਖੂੰਜੇ ਲਾਇਆ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ, ਦੋਵਾਂ ਹੀ ਭਾਈਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਹੈਡ-ਗਰੰਥੀ ਥਾਪ ਕੇ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰੇ ਵਿਚ ਵਾਦ-ਵਿਵਾਦ ਅਤੇ ਆਪੋ ਧਾਪੀ ਮਚਾਈ ਹੋਈ ਹੈ।ਇਹ ਸਭ ਕੁਝ ਅਜੋਕੇ ਭੌਅ੍ਰਧ ਵਲੋਂ ਗੁਪਤੀ ਅੰਦਾਜ਼ ਵਿਚ ਫ਼ੈਸਲੇ ਲੈਣ ਦੀ ਧੁੰਦਲੀ ਨੀਤੀ ਦੀ ਦੁਖਦਾਊ ਉਪਜ ਹੈ।&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ਤ੍ਰਾਸਦੀ ਇਹ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਮੌਜੂਦਾ ਬੋਰਡ ਨੇ ਜੋ ਕਿ 2008 ਵਿਚ ਕਾਬਜ ਹੋਇਆ, ਪਹਿਲੇ ਬੋਰਡ ਤੇ ਪਾਰਦਰਸ਼ੀ ਨਾਂ ਹੋਣ ਦਾ, ਸੰਗਤ ਅਤੇ ਨੌਜੁਆਨਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਸਦਭਾਵਨਾ ਵਾਲਾ ਰਾਬਤਾ ਨਾ ਰੱਖਣ ਦਾ ਦੋਸ਼ ਥਪਦਿਆਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਮੂੁਹੋਂ ਮੀਆਂ ਮਿਠੂ ਬਣਦਿਆਂ ਆਪ ਨੂੰ “ਪੰਥਕ ਸਲੇਟ” ਗਰਦਾਨਿਆਂ ਸੀ। ਪਰ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਕਾਰਗੁਜ਼ਾਰੀ ਵਿਚ ਪੰਥਕ ਸੋਚ ਵਾਲੀ ਕੋਈ ਵੀ ਝਲਕ ਵੇਖਣ ਨੂੰ ਨਸੀਬ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋਈ।ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਕਾਰਗੁਜ਼ਾਰੀ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਰਪੱਖਤਾ ਨਾਲ ਵੀਚਾਰਿਆਂ ਪ੍ਰਤੱਖ ਸਿਟਾ ਇਹ ਹੀ ਨਿਕਲਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਜੋ ਵੀ ਫ਼ੈਸਲੇ ਲਏ ਗਏ ਹਨ, ਲਏ ਜਾ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ ਅਤੇ ਜਿਸ ਢੰਗ ਨਾਲ ਲਏ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਹਨ ਉਹ ਪੰਥਕ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਗੋਂ ਪੰਥ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ ਹਨ।&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ਪੰਥ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;ਬੇਸ਼ਕ “ਪੰਥ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ” ਲੇਬਲ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਕੌੜਾ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਹੈ।ਇਸ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਨੂੰ ਸੁਣਦਿਆਂ ਹੀ ਅਜੋਕੇ ਅਖੌਤੀ ਪਾਲੀਟੀਸ਼ਨਾ ਦਾ ਭਲੋਦ ਪਰੲਸਸੁਰੲ ਵਧਣ ਲਗ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ ।ਪਰ ਇਹ ਕੌੜਾ ਤੱਥ ਸਚ ਹੈ ਜਾਂ ਬੇ-ਬੁਨਿਆਦ, ਦਾ ਨਿਰਣਾ ਕਰਨ ਹਿਤ ਅਗੇ ਪੜ੍ਹਣ ਦੀ ਕਿਰਪਾਲਤਾ ਕਰਨੀ ਜੀ ।ਤੱਥਾਂ ਦੀ ਰੌਸ਼ਨੀ ਵਿਚ ਸਾਬਤ ਹੋ ਜਾਵੇਗਾ ਕਿ ਮੌਜੂਦਾ ਬੋਰਡ ਦੀ ਕਾਰ ਗੁਜ਼ਾਰੀ ਨੂੰ ਪੰਥ ਵਿਰੋਧੀ ਕਹਿਣਾ ਬਿਲਕੁਲ ਜਾਇਜ਼ ਅਤੇ ਉਚਿਤ ਹੈ ।&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(255, 102, 0);"&gt;ਪੂਰਾ ਲੇਖ ਪੜਨ ਲਈ ਉਪਰ ਲੇਖ ਦੇ ਟਾਇਟਲ (Title - Actions of SRS Board "Anti-Panthic") ਤੇ ਕਲਿਕ ਕਰੋ ਜੀ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2160623360319672192-5585842931215886559?l=vismad.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgp8z225_4d96kkccc' title='Actions of SRS Board “Anti-Panthic”, Palatine Sangat’s Growing Discontent (Panjabi Translation)'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://vismad.blogspot.com/feeds/5585842931215886559/comments/default' title='Post 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term='gujarat'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='politics'/><title type='text'>Tehelka Exposes Butchers of Gujarat Massacres. Is it Time to Account for 1984 Sikh Pogroms?</title><content type='html'>This amazing bit of investigative journalism, a spycam taping of conversations with leaders from the Bajrang Dal, etc. (right-wing Hindu fascist organizations) details the killings of Muslims and the planning behind the "spontaneous" outburst of popular anger, so common in India.  The accounts are sickeningly similar to the "spontaneous" outburst of popular anger that led to the massacre of thousands of Sikhs in 1984.  Except, both the killings of Sikhs in 1984 and Muslims in 2002 were carried out in a planned manner, with the support and knowledge of elected Indian officials, and facilitated by the law enforcement apparatus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As expected, India (the so-called 'largest &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;democracy&lt;/span&gt; in the world') and its ruling Congress party remain unaffected by these revelations.  Elections in Gujarat are one week away.  Will this have an impact?  It could, if enough of us bring this to light.  &lt;a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/5/explosive_report_by_indian_magazine_exposes"&gt;Amy Goodman interviewed&lt;/a&gt; Tarun Tejpal, the editor-in-chief of Tehelka.com on Democracy Now! and the interview aired this morning.  The story has made the independent source of news in the US.  Can we help bring it to the mainstream sources?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please watch the videos and pass on the information to as many people as you can.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2160623360319672192-3708008900793481274?l=vismad.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://tehelka.com/story_main35.asp?filename=Ne031107gujrat_sec.asp' title='Tehelka Exposes Butchers of Gujarat Massacres. 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